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		<title>Perl job = high salary</title>
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Here is article (in Polish language, but you will surely understand the first bar graph) http://interaktywnie.com/biznes/newsy/raporty-i-badania/tak-w-polsce-placi-sie-pracownikom-it-12414 that shows that Perl developers earn the highest salaries in Poland (50% more than PHP coders)  



The numbers on graph means: length of bar &#8211; monthly salary in polish złoty (currency) &#8211; divde by 4 to get values [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is article (in Polish language, but you will surely understand the <strong>first</strong> bar graph) <a title="perl job salary" rel="nofollow" href="http://interaktywnie.com/biznes/newsy/raporty-i-badania/tak-w-polsce-placi-sie-pracownikom-it-12414" target="_blank">http://interaktywnie.com/biznes/newsy/raporty-i-badania/tak-w-polsce-placi-sie-pracownikom-it-12414</a> that shows that Perl developers earn the highest salaries in Poland (50% more than PHP coders) <img src='http://perl.baczynski.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>The numbers on graph means: length of bar &#8211; monthly salary in polish złoty (currency) &#8211; divde by 4 to get values in Euro, percentage in pink box &#8211; percentage of that language users (perl &#8211; 5%)</p>



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		<title>Masons and mason</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;m reading now a book by Dan Brown, author of &#8220;DaVinci code&#8221;, titled &#8220;Lost symbol&#8221;. It is mostly about masons. And it quite resemble the previous books by this author. Anyway, it is riveting.
This seemingly off-topic introduction leads to the on-topic perl thing: the mason. It is a &#8220;High-performance, dynamic web site authoring system&#8221; and [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m reading now a book by Dan Brown, author of &#8220;DaVinci code&#8221;, titled &#8220;Lost symbol&#8221;. It is mostly about masons. And it quite resemble the previous books by this author. Anyway, it is riveting.</p>
<p>This seemingly off-topic introduction leads to the on-topic perl thing:<a title="mason hq" href="http://www.masonhq.com/" target="_blank"> the mason</a>. It is a &#8220;High-performance, dynamic web site authoring system&#8221; and &#8220;solves the common problems of site development: caching, debugging, templating, maintaining development and production sites, and more.&#8221; and &#8220;you can embed Perl code in your HTML and construct pages from shared, reusable components.&#8221;. Well, sound nice. How it looks? Like this:</p>
<p>(there was something wrong here. I removed it <img src='http://perl.baczynski.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )<br />
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<p>Source: <a href="http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/07/15/nocode.html">http://www.perl.com/pub/a/2003/07/15/nocode.html</a>. Not so pretty.<br />
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<p>Sadly, the FAQ on the official page seems to be neglected and is spammed by merchants of medications made to make your weenie harder. On the other hand, newest version is 1.44 form Jan 4, 2010 - so it is still developed.</p>
<p>Assuming that I would like to learn something new, like "something big, modern, to easy make web applications - with templates, cache, scalability, quick development" should I dive into mason, or better look for something else?</p>
<p>So, I have question, asking <strong>YOU</strong> for an insight about this<em> like:</em><br />
- <em>mason</em> is cool, and at least better to do the same by your own from scratch<br />
- forget it, it is so 1990's, learn <em>catalyst</em> instead<br />
- forget mason and catalyst, learn PHP <em>symphony</em> (- no problem for me, I know PHP - more or less <img src='http://perl.baczynski.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )<br />
- ruby <em>on rails</em> is the real thing (no, I will not learn ruby - at least now <img src='http://perl.baczynski.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  )<br />
- the best is framework .... (something not mentioned above)</p>
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		<title>Perl, PHP, corporate &#8211; continued.</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 04:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Lech</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Remember when I wrote about Perl, Python  and PHP taking bigger part in corporate world? Here is nice analysis that shows that PHP growth in this one particular job ads service is not linked to the growing search for &#8220;multilingual&#8221; developers (java or .net or C#, VB, ASP &#8211; and PHP) but for PHP-focused [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Remember when I wrote about Perl, Python  and PHP taking <a href="http://perl.baczynski.com/future/perl-good-as-java" target="_blank">bigger part</a> in corporate world? <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.infoworld.com/d/open-source/php-job-growth-not-linked-multilingual-developers-979" target="_blank">Here</a> is nice analysis that shows that PHP growth in this one particular job ads service is not linked to the growing search for &#8220;multilingual&#8221; developers (java or .net or C#, VB, ASP &#8211; <strong>and</strong> PHP) but for PHP-focused developers.</p>
<p>Other interesting thing is that the jaw-dropping chart shown in the &#8220;<a rel="nofollow" href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10453213-16.html" target="_blank">crashing the enterprise party</a>.&#8221; article shows growth of given language job ads, not absolute number. See <a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=Java%2C+PHP%2C+Perl%2C+.Net%2C+Python">absolute number for opening your eyes</a> <img src='http://perl.baczynski.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>See, that absolute numbers show that Perl is <strong>higher</strong> than PHP and Python, although PHP and Pyhon are <strong>rising</strong>, while Perl is on <strong>one level.</strong></p>
<p>One more thing &#8211; Savio compared PHP and other langs + PHP combbniations (<a href="http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=PHP%2C+.%28NET+or+C%23+or+VB+or+ASP%29+%26+PHP%2C+Java+%26+PHP&amp;l=">see here</a>). What if we <a href="http://www.indeed.com/jobtrends?q=PHP%2C+%28.NET+or+C%23+or+VB+or+ASP%29+%26+PHP%2C+Java+%26+PHP%2Cperl&amp;l=">add Perl? See. Wow.</a><strong> </strong></p>
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		<dc:creator>Lech</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[If we compare languages by number of jobs offers, and take into account just one site with job offers, we may think that:
Perl as good as java, python and PHP are way above
There are a few articles about growing popularity of open source and languages like PHP and Python in corporate world. See cnet, o&#8217;rly [...]


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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we compare languages by number of jobs offers, and take into account just one site with job offers, we may think that:</p>
<p><strong>Perl as good as java, python and PHP are way above</strong></p>
<p>There are a few articles about growing popularity of open source and languages like PHP and Python in corporate world. See <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10453213-16.html" target="_blank">cnet</a>, <a href="http://radar.oreilly.com/2009/07/open-source-is-infiltrating-th.html" target="_blank">o&#8217;rly</a> and <a href="http://technologie.gazeta.pl/technologie/1,82008,7561902,Python_i_PHP_bez_kompleksow_wchodza_do_swiata_aplikacji.html" target="_blank">gazeta (in Polish)</a>.</p>
<p>Until now, java and .NET seemed to be the most popular in corporate world. Now is time for Python, PHP, Perl, and open source solutions. For example Farmville, very popular online game, with million of users, is said to run on LAMP stack.</p>
<p>There is also opinion that companies like Zend or ActiveState give &#8220;corporate face&#8221; to open source. And yes, open source is not free (as free beer) &#8211; you often have to (or are willing to) pay for support, knowledge, contractors etc. (vide MySQL Enterprise).</p>
<p>But, returning to the title of this post &#8211; on the graph in <a href="http://news.cnet.com/8301-13505_3-10453213-16.html" target="_blank">cnet article</a>- you can see that there is the same amout of job offers for java and perl developers, some more for .NET, much much more and rising for PHP and even more (and rising more) for python.</p>



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